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Weekend Noise, Garbage Irk Nyack Merchants

Village-run clean-up would cost taxpayers money; other solutions sought

If Nyack's noisy weekend nights aren't enough to miff downtown business owners and residents, the morning-after mess generally does the trick.

Just recently, Paulette Ross of P. Ross on Main Street had to step over broken glass to open her doors in the a.m., and Marianne Olive—owner of and —often wards off legions of untidy revelers on Saturday evenings.

"They are often drunk and dropping things along the way, scattering them all over the place," she said.

Merchants like Ross and Olive are frequently on their own when it comes to clean-up. If the village were to pitch in, unionized DPW workers would have to be used, costing as much as $40 or $50 an hour. 

"It's not a good use of taxpayer money," explained Nyack trustee Jen Laird-White.

The village is working on other, more proactive solutions, however. Where the proposed fell short, stricter legislation may work. A new noise ordinance could make it so a bar's noise cannot go beyond the curbline out front.

"Essentially, noise can't leave the building," explained Walter Sevastian, village attorney. Further, it would require the watering holes—which can stay open until 4 a.m.—to keep their doors closed starting at 1 a.m.

A workshop is set for November, and a number of Nyack business owners are rooting for the resolution—including Jack Dunnigan, the owner of who also lives downtown.

"The murming of the crowd is one thing, but the music is another," he said. "It creates a roar... [inebriated people] are milling around until 5, 6 and 7 a.m.

Mary Koshak October 17, 2011 at 03:33 PM
Marianne Olive is complaining about the drunks and their messes. She has Chutzpah..She is a bar owner (Olives). She is a part of the problem. Let the bar owners like her pay for the cleanup.
Robert B October 17, 2011 at 04:42 PM
While I live in Rockland, I am an attorney in NYC and I specialize in representing nightlife establishments and restaurants. I am counsel to the New York Nightlife Association. The late night businesses, what we call "the other 9-5" are legitimate, tax paying employers and are entitled to the same government services that daytime businesses are, including street cleaning caused by pedestrians. Having said that, the late night business owners need to band together and offer to be partners with the town in coming to solutions for these quality of life problems. Rob Bookman
John Whitley October 18, 2011 at 09:40 AM
Well said Mary. Marianne Olive is a transparent hypocrite.
Barbara Cohig October 18, 2011 at 11:32 AM
No parking after 2 am in village lots and at meters should do the trick.
leigh Vazquez October 18, 2011 at 01:02 PM
Olives is one of the loudest bars on the strip! I used to live a block away and could hear her music over every other bar in town. And maybe if she stopped serving all the underage kids in the county she wouldn't have to clean up after them!
Dwight October 18, 2011 at 02:50 PM
It is surely a Catch 22 situation. With all of the empty storefronts in Nyack, they need the revenue from the nightlife establishments, and nearly all of the bar and restaurant owners in Nyack are long-established individuals who give back to the community. Somehow I have a feeling when Jen-Laird White is elected mayor, alot of these problems will be solved. And Rob Bookman's answer above was a most sensible one. Go forward and figure out how to solve the problem(s).
Stella October 19, 2011 at 01:35 PM
Clean up your own storefront. Wow, that was hard. Let's hire DPW employees to do it for us and while we are at it, let's organize a task force to figure out an answer to this huge problem facing the community *rolls eyes*
John Whitley October 19, 2011 at 01:52 PM
Stella, you obviously either own a bar (or similar establishment) or have never driven through Nyack around 4 o'clock on a Sunday morning. Urine, puke, thousands of cigarette butts, broken bottles, sometimes broken store windows. How would YOU like to clear that up before you open a business for a day?
elizabeth November 23, 2011 at 02:09 AM
We need to petition the State Liquor Authority to close the bars at 1:00. The Orangetown police chief has already said he would support us in this endeavor. Let's see if our new mayor has the guts and fortitude to initiate this.
H December 31, 2011 at 04:55 PM
BLACK BEAR and ITS REVELERS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!!!!
NyackbornNraised January 30, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Most of the commenters on this post are old hags who complain all the time. Nyack's nightlife is what makes Nyack such a popular place and brings in revenue and jobs for the village. Quit complaining you old people are the ones who were doing way worse things back in the 70s let this generation have some fun for once jeeez! And on changing the bar time to earlier that would completely kill the popularity and people would go elsewhere, many of the restaurants stay afloat due to the revenue they make at night on the overpriced drinks they serve! No more 4am bar closing and you will start to see some places shut doors... and that means less taxes for the village, jobs, ect.
NyackbornNraised January 30, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Also those who complain about noise are dumb its like moving next to an airport and complaining that its noisy as well, you know what you're getting yourself into if you're so upset about the noise move to upper nyack or valley cottage !
elizabeth January 30, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Does "NyackbornNraide" still live here? I doubt it.... Would you like to see the filth and hear the noise in your neighborhood? As for the taxes they bring, they also bring expenses; such as the extra police presence, clean up, and loss of rental income from tenants who don't want to deal with the noise and filth. Also, if the bars go out of business, we may get more good restaurants and /or other businesses that don't cater to drunkeness......
NyackbornNraised January 31, 2012 at 08:24 AM
I actually do still live here only a few block from downtown and being a young person in their 20s it gives me and many co-workers and friends a place to go out on a weekend night in a fairly boring county like Rockland its one of the few places young people have to go. Any place that has a bar scene has to deal with filth and extra police officers but the bar scene is one of the main elements that makes Nyack a fun unique town that I am proud to call home. I agree there have been various incidents that are outrageous but you cant blame the establishments who employ TEAMS on bouncers as well as other workers who do there job. If you change the closing time of bars or start shutting them down you're going to have a lot of void store fronts in Nyack. If you don't want to be a noisy area dont live near downtown plane and simple just like if you live in the city dont live in an are where there are a lot of bars if you want peace and quiet !
NyackbornNraised January 31, 2012 at 08:26 AM
to be in a noisy area dont live near downtown plain and simple *
elizabeth January 31, 2012 at 01:16 PM
You keep talking about "old versus young." Not everybody in their 20's goes out and gets drunk till 4 in the morning for recreation. There are a plethora of other forms of entertainment. We do live pretty close to one of the most interesting cities in the world, with plenty of cultural activities that go on in the evenings. Conversley, there are many people in their 30's, 40's, and above, who like to get drunk in bars until 4 in the morning as their form of recreation. This is not an "age" argument. It is a "quality of life" argument for all residents of this village, regardless of their age. Plenty of people living here in their 20's are just as disgusted by the noise and filth of the bars, as are the "old hags" that you talk about. Being young is not synonomous with getting in drunk in bars until 4 am. You seem to have some hang ups about aging. If you open your mind, you might find that "old hags" have an awful lot of wisdom to impart to us all.

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