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Officials: New TZ Bridge Toll Could Be $14

State transportation officials sound off on new span financing, other details

A crowd of 120-plus packed the Ellipse room at Rockland Community College Thursday night to listen to state officials and experts talk about the and possible toll hikes.

Secretary to the Governor Larry Schwartz said tolls for the new bridge could cost $14 when the span opens, most likely in 2017. He added that the George Washington Bridge will increase its tolls to $14 within the next two years, and he expects they’ll go up again before the new Tappan Zee Bridge is expected to open.

The Tappan Zee Bridge toll is currently $5, or $4.75 with E-ZPass, with additional deals for commuters and carpooling commuters.

“They should just build a three-lane bridge,” Lynn Teger, of Haverstraw said. “Just a lane for walkers, a lane for bicycles and a lane for buses, because at this rate nobody is going to be able to afford driving over the bridge.”

The meeting, originally scheduled for last week but , was part of four and Rockland to discuss the options for the new bridge.

New York State Thruway Authority director Tom Madison said there are three options for the project: fix the current bridge, build a new county transit system or build a new bridge. Of the three, Madison said the third option is “the most sensible and smartest option given the situation we’re in now, given the economic circumstances and also given the need to replace this bridge as fast as we possibly can.”

The meeting also touched on some recent developments relating to the bridge. Schwartz said the state recently from groups to design and build the new bridge. He said the state will review the three bids, which are approximately a combined 750,000 pages, for completeness and compliance over the next month.

He also talked about the . He said that while the document is also thousands of pages, that doesn’t mean other issues can’t still be addressed.

“I heard the issues and concerns about noise and air quality, impacts on quality of life, and because it’s not necessarily addressed in the FEIS does not mean that your concerns are not going to be addressed,” he said. “I promised you I would get to back all of you, I promised that in a full due diligence effort go back and look at all the transcripts, everything that was said in public meetings, in writing, not in writing.”

He added that the state will work with homeowners and local residents, as well as local governments, to go over their concerns. He also said they will discuss where to place monitors during construction. They will monitor for air quality, noise and vibration.

“We will work on where those monitors get placed so people feel that when there’s a reading, it will be accurate,” he said, adding that real time results will be available online.

Assemblyman Ken Zebrowski spoke at the meeting to address some concerns he’s heard about the new bridge.

“What I’ve heard from my constituents is that they want to see that, perhaps, as this project is going on or as it’s completed that there are set goals and standards that they can look to,” he said. “What they’re concerned about is that this project will be built, it’ll on the back burner, it’ll be in another part of the state, and this will be something that languishes for 30, 40 years.”

Other concerns raised at Thursday’s meeting include how the bridge will affect the river and the animals that live there. Mark Roach, an engineer on the panel Thursday night, said there are two endangered species in the river, both kinds of sturgeon, and their tests, as well as an outside agency, don’ think the construction will be detrimental to the fish.

He also said that to keep the noise down for the fish, they will use a bubble curtain, which he described as something that surrounds the construction and it releases bubbles from the riverbed up through the water that traps the noise.

Roach said that another test showed that to reduce noise during construction, they can vibrate items down instead of hit them with a hammer, which he added is a much quieter option.

Ken McQuade August 03, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Guess we know where the money will come to build the stinking bridge.
AH August 03, 2012 at 03:48 PM
It should be much higher to reduce state debt and decrease traffic and commuter travel.
Chris August 03, 2012 at 04:00 PM
It could cost 14 dollars or it could cost 20 dollars, who really knows? The shadow?
Jason August 03, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Why even build a bridge just build a tunnel
AH August 03, 2012 at 04:38 PM
I agree with Jason no jumpers causing problems.
Lynn Teger August 03, 2012 at 05:09 PM
The bottom line. https://vimeo.com/46888438
Mary August 03, 2012 at 05:49 PM
I wonder who will build the bridge... http://amac.us/u-s-bridges-built-by-chinese-with-our-tax-dollars
J H August 03, 2012 at 05:54 PM
$14 is outrageous, and I agree - it's a "hidden" tax, but one I cannot even write off! They should look at congestion pricing then. Lower tolls on off hours would encourage trucks to cross the bridge off hours, leaving less traffic, headaches and pollution for commuters.
Mary August 03, 2012 at 06:05 PM
$30.00 toll in 2017??!! Who the heck is going to buy here...especially if they work in Westchester.
Walt August 03, 2012 at 06:31 PM
I think we are now seeing the real reason why they are not in favor of putting a rail link to Manhattan on the bridge. They want to bleed commuters for every cent they can and the rail option will take away revenue.
INTHEKNOW August 03, 2012 at 07:32 PM
This fee is designed to lower the number of vehicles on the bridge, as many people use the TZ as an alternate to the GWB due to the cheaper toll. It won't be worth it for truckers to drive the extra miles to avoid the GWB toll now.
Mary August 03, 2012 at 07:46 PM
It's all part of Cuomo's utopia...Greener NY...here's his website.. http://www.andrewcuomo.com/greenny
Aidan August 03, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Just another example of NYS ineptitude. What surfaced as an obvious issue a decade or more ago now comes to a head during the worst economic downturn in half a century. Now it's a rush job ... and sure to be a debacle along the way ... in keeping with NY's reputation for being a dysfunctional state. California East.
Aidan August 03, 2012 at 11:22 PM
"He also said that to keep the noise down for the fish, they will use a bubble curtain, which he described as something that surrounds the construction and it releases bubbles from the riverbed up through the water that traps the noise." Now I can sleep at night. And wake up bright and cheery and hope I've got 14 smackeroos to get over to the other side ... without waking the sleeping fish.
James Bond August 04, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Totally agree Mike. At least I have time to look for a job here in Rockland. I think it's gonna make the Palisades Mall and other locations like a ghost town as residents from Westchester and the 5 boroughs go elsewhere to shop, ie: Ridge Hill/ Galleria in White Plains/ Cross County Shopping Center. Who is going to pay $14 dollars to shop in Rockland.
James Bond August 04, 2012 at 10:52 AM
I like that idea Stephany. Stephany for Governor
James Bond August 04, 2012 at 10:54 AM
How do you know this? Was it reported somewhere? Can we have the link? Tx
Victoria Ficco-Panzer August 04, 2012 at 11:16 AM
To John Taggert:EZ Pass is $13.30,the$8.50 is for commuters!
Dave Rein August 04, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Time to move away from Rockland. The GWB cost hike was a test, people are swallowing it, so here comes the next level of the screwover. Same thing with gas prices, which are apparently not quite as tied to the price of oil as we have all been conditioned to believe. Sayonara, New Haven, here I come. Enough of NY state, it costs as much as California, but without the great weather and pot dispensaries.
John Taggart August 04, 2012 at 12:48 PM
OK, thats still important to note as many of the above posts are commuters talking about paying the full 14. Apparently a passenger car with ezpass that crosses the bridge daily can get the 8.50 price. I'm not a commuter and 28.oo to cross and come back ain't happening unless its a wedding or funeral. There will be adverse effects. Too bad the dope in the White House laughed off the idea of funding shovel ready jobs like this one. A small amount of that "job creating" stimulus money would have kept tolls down
Pat August 04, 2012 at 01:36 PM
The reason Rockland County grew was because of the Tappan Zee Bridge and the close proximity to NYC for commuters. Charging this much for the toll threatens to isolate us again. Watch as our home values in Rockland decrease even more as the huge toll makes us less commuter friendly. Big win for Westchester home owners.
John Taggart August 04, 2012 at 01:48 PM
I could see people moving from Rockland to Westchester, if they commute and don't qualify for the discount. Try to find a house near a train station. Haverstraw has alot of very affordable single family houses, river access, mountain views, and a ferry. I encourage people to move here revitalize the historic river front village and use the ferry to commute.
Cadeyrn August 04, 2012 at 01:58 PM
I think this is a heart-stab for Rockland ... and a boon for Westchester real estate.
Watchdog August 04, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Right John, less than 6% of the stimulus went to infrastructure projects in the USA. I will say that again. LESS THAN 6%.
Watchdog August 04, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Maybe we can use some of that SOCIAL JUSTICE Obama money to pay our tolls?
Watchdog August 04, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Do you think they can afford the taxes? The police chief makes a little less than Ray Kelly, NYC Police Commissioner and what about those disappearing rateables and Tax Certs?
Watchdog August 04, 2012 at 02:25 PM
IT ain't over yet golds, VINNY P COAT REDA is about to annointed another politician, a democrat, now Reda Republican, Joe Carvin who voted for OBAMA along with his wife who gave thousands to this OBAMA campaign and who will have to close her eyes and go to a different line IF she wants to vote for her husband. So now we have a choice A democrat or a democrat. WE ARE DOOMED.
John Taggart August 04, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Watchdog, My house has dropped in value 100,000.oo, I had a realtor I know evaluate it and he told me your stuck, wait it out. He didn't want the listing, and I don't want to move. I have to hope for the best, I have to hope water plants get built and power plants get built ( no riverkeeper line from canada crap ). I have to hope they stop raising taxes on empty store fronts on 9W. and do something to attracted business. I really wish we could bring the entire governmental body up on charges, have them removed and have a judge and arbitratiors sort through Rocklands books and force the tuff choices. Or get rid of the county , or get rid of the towns. Rocklands governments are a selfish pig, there is no excuse for Westchester being AAA and us junk......its criminal. I hope Rockland can get its shit together before I have to go south, I still love it and the Hudson, but it may be too sick and have to die before there is change... SO... Haverstraw has alot of very affordable single family houses, river access, mountain views, and a ferry. I encourage people to move here revitalize the historic river front village and use the ferry to commute
Watchdog August 05, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Tag...WE ARE DOOMED... Vanderhoef is incompetent... Cornell and Schoenberger look out for the Hasids who will eventually take over the County...watch what happens to the Nursing Home.....Vinny Reda and Ed Lettre control the ballot box....jobs....tax increases...fees...phony budgets...political corruption...the Press is complicit....liberal....Social Justice.........WE ARE DONE....DOOMED.
Mary August 06, 2012 at 09:19 AM
We can't expect anymore than what we're getting without being involved. Somebody else wants to be on the ballot...a true conservative... Frank Morganthaler..http://frankmorganthaler.com/ People are out getting his petitions signed....he needs 3,500 signatures in order to get on November's ballot...he'll be on the "We The People" line. If you want to help, please visit his website and volunteer or donate. We also have a conservative Democrat who is trying to run against Carlucci, but they've challenged 700 signatures. http://nyack.patch.com/articles/valentine-to-challenge-carlucci-for-senate-seat

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