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FLASH POLL: New York GOP Insiders Say Romney Can Overcome

The "47 Percent" remarks that have dogged presidential candidate Mitt Romney this week don't mean he can't win, insiders tell Patch in our Red Empire Survey.

Republicans in one of the nation's biggest Democratic strongholds have one thing to tell Mitt Romney after the rash of bad publicity he's garnered over his secretly taped "47 percent" remarks.

It ain't over yet.

The majority of Republican insiders in New York polled by Patch this week said the candidate's quagmire over his seeming dismissal of poorer or government-dependent Americans will not affect the outcome of the election, though many admit that the situation has dealt a blow to the former Massachusetts governor.

In fact, only two of the 34 influentials who answered our survey thought the remarks spell the end of Romney's bid for the Oval Office.

Romney has faced immense scrutiny this week following the release of video secretly shot at a Florida closed-door fundraiser in which the candidate appears to disparage who he calls President Barack Obama's loyal base of voters.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what," Romney said in the video released by Mother Jones.

Romney so far has stood by his remarks, but conceded that they were not "elegantly stated."

It's a similar strategy suggested by many of Patch's respondents, a group of political insiders who include campaign organizers, community board members, activists, town supervisors and congressional candidates who all gave their remarks on the condition of anonymity.

"It's true and they should confront it head on. Explain why jobs are better then dependency," said one respondent.

"Do not apologize," said another. "Continue the message that America is about private sector opportunity and entrepreneurs and not the government running and coddling our lives."

In fact, most of the advice our insiders said they'd give to Romney and his campaign managers revolved around keeping their message on point with the country's economic recovery.

"They should immediately refocus on the fact that there are so many in need of govt subsidies because of Obamas failed economic policies," said one respondent, while another said, "don't be so stupid. Stick to the pressing issues and the failures of the Obama administraion."

Our insiders, however, did criticize the candidate for not being a smarter campaigner, especially when it comes to speaking more carefully in public.

"Be positive, be forthright and think before you speak (even in private)," one respondent said.

The Red Empire Survey

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican activists, party leaders and elected officials in New York. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. Surveys were conducted between July 23 and July 31.

Patch will be conducting Red Empire State and Blue Empire State surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and liberals on the ground in New York. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Henry@patch.com.)

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BR Cannon October 01, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Ross -- you are not repeating what the AP reported. The AP did not say "I guess like minds think alike." Anybody with a 2nd grade education would understand that you are expressing an opinion, not participating in journalism. That's what he's responding to. Duh.
Ross Revira October 01, 2012 at 09:09 PM
You guy's are amazing. I just stated that Chavez supports Obama reported by the AP. My opinion is clearly stated. I did not say as bruiser stated that Obama was conspiring with Chavez. What are you and bruiser so scared of? I would think that bruiser, Issy , Bjorn, Nyack Resident and all the of the Obama supporters would be proud of the endorsement by Chavez.. Like minds think alike whether you want that publicized or not that is your burden not mine.
bruiser October 01, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Ross trust me i am afraid of nothing my friend,i spent 3 years in Nam ducking bullets so people like you can dog our commander and chief at every given turn.I stated exactly what i felt,every single day you folks call this man every name under the sun,you accuse him every single day of some kind of conspiracy, no matter what he does it is never good enough.In my humble opinion my friend this is why the GOP is going down in flames(The house included) why don't you run for president Ross and show us just how smart you are.
Ross Revira October 01, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Just show me once where I used a derogatory name or accused President Obama of a conspiracy? Are you that paranoid?
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 12:02 AM
Thats' some scary stuff there BR "your kind will be silenced once and for all"?- "elliminating" people? You're a scary individual, but the same Constitution that gives you the right to say those scary psychopathic statements, is the same one that allows me to say my peace- you're sounding a little" Germany in the 1930's" my friend.
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Ross here is a little hint(I guess like minds think alike) the insinuation is there Ross because everybody knows what Chavez is(A dictator) and i feel you think Obama is the same. As for my edumacation i am one of thum thar haigh school drops outs who received his GED in the service,but once out of the service my friend there was no stopping me.I started a business with less than 700 dollars in my pocket and now am proud to say i own a lot of real estate,and I have plenty of money in the bank.But there is one thing i will never forget are the people who have had faith in me,the banks who loaned me the money over the years, and the people who deposited their money so's i could borrow,I will never forget the union people who have helped me over the years(GEORGE MEANY) to name just one,with out their advice and guidance i don't believe i would be as far today.
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Bengahzi a clear cover-up, fast and furious disaster, we have OUR department of agriculture meeting with the mexican government to tell their citizens how to access food stamps when they get to america OUR country, our soldiers in afghanistan are getting killed ( reach the 2000 mark a few days ago, media silent) more under 4 years of bama than 8 years of bush,healthcare costs up 35%, printing more money devaluing the dollar, debt will crush us pretty soon, mideast burning after bamas apeasement speech several years ago, iran closer to nuke, 4 more years of this? ain't gonna happen
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Ok Jenga just don't give an opinion or repeat what you hear of fox,PROVE EVERYTHING YOU POSTED, FACTS MY FRIEND FACTS
Ross Revira October 02, 2012 at 12:35 AM
Hate to break this to you bruiser but Chavez is an elected president and is running for another six year term. I can see why you are paranoid.
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 12:35 AM
Obama has convinced about 47% of the population that america should be ashamed of itself, that we have caused too much trouble around the world and we are getting our due. It's ok to be unemployed and have no motivation to do for yourself, the gov't will be there for you- to give you just enough so you need them, and will continue to vote them in, in fear of losing your lifeline. It's ok to go to college for 4 years and spend a fortune only to have to live with your parents for the next 10 years because there are so few jobs, it's ok that because you've run out of unemployment benefits and still are jobless, so you file for social security disability to try to keep afloat, it's our fault that muslims hate us and kill us on a daily basis, we deserve these things right? This is the new norm right?
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 12:36 AM
We can do a lot better than this loser- is Romney the best alternative? no, he;s the only one.
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Ross is Chavez a dictator? Bush, Fox, and the Venezuelan oligarchy will tell you that he is.
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 01:39 AM
I really don't watch fox, but I'm not giving a presentation to congress here- everything I stated is fact- I would prefer people to try to prove me wrong- that way it incentivises them to actually do some research on their own in which they will see the truth for themselves.Too many people listen to the rhetoric on both sides and take it as truth. I prefer to research for myself
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Fast and furious,what about it Jenga didn't Darrel Issa say there was no evidence,as for the rest of your post that is a joke as well.Who got us into afghanistan was that Obama to,as for healthcare cost they have been rising since Reagan(I PAY FOR MY OWN} and those costs have been rising for ever,to blame Obama is a joke.
Teleman October 02, 2012 at 02:47 AM
The fact is, if you are satisfied with the way things are and the policies that are in place, god bless, vote the status quo. At least 47% of us are not happy with the atrophe we see going on culturally and economically the past 4 years, we want change.
Ross Revira October 02, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Bruiser now you are quoting Fox News and George W. I would think you are more of a New York Times man. In America some people believe President Obama is a dictator is that true?
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 05:18 PM
some people believe President Obama is a dictator is that true? I am starting to wonder Ross if all of our politicians aren't wannabe's dictator's,my problem Ross is i do not trust a single politician in this country.I will also state people in general are starting to worry me with all their laws they want in place.
Ross Revira October 02, 2012 at 06:08 PM
I do not believe President Obama is a dictator. I do believe his goal is to make America more socialist than capitalist. We agree that trusting any politician to do the right thing is problematic. The US is unique in the world in that we as citizens enjoy all rights not prohibited by law. In all the other countries the government grants its citizens their rights. We as citizens do not need the government's permission to do anything as long as it is not prohibited by a law. To look at in another way any law passed by our government either takes away a freedom from someone or takes away money from someone. I find it hard to believe by reading your background that you support the out of control entitlement mentality in America today. Compassion for our fellow citizens does not entail a blank check with no strings attached. Truly helping someone is not to keep them enslaved for generations with government handouts unless it is ones desire to build a permanent dependent class.
Issy October 02, 2012 at 07:45 PM
So I see from your post that you support abortion, gay rights, equal rights laws, are against the death penalty and for a liberal society. Welcome to the 21st century. FYI Obama does not even come close to being a socialist, he is too much a centrist, something the Republican part did away these last few years..
Bjorn Olsson October 02, 2012 at 09:00 PM
"In all the other countries the government grants its citizens their rights" What kind of nonsense is that?
Ross Revira October 02, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Issy spoken like a true Progressive. Bjorn I guess the truth hurts .
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Ross if you are talking about social security or medicare as an entitlement then i will have to strongly disagree.I have paid into these systems for years and so has my wife,are people actually supposed to feel guilty about wanting what they paid for,i say no they are not. I am going to make a prediction,the party that tries to take that away will no longer be able to by a vote in any election.When Simpson stated on national TV that people are greedy for wanting what they paid for was the start of the republicans down fall.Whether i agree or disagree doesn't really matter,that statement came from a guy who lived off our dimes his whole life and had the audacity to say we were the greedy ones.Ross our country is in trouble and i think we as voters no matter what side of the isle,it is time to demand that they fix the problems they created,dems and repubs need to stick together on this one,and if that means i pay more in taxes so be it.
Dan Seidel October 02, 2012 at 09:23 PM
In a Republic, the government derives its legitimacy from the People's consent to be governed. America is a Republic - it's in the Constitution and for any state to join the Union, it too must be a Republic. The People have innate, natural born rights that derive from no government. In fact, the 10th Amendment reserves to the People powers not delegated to the United States nor prohibited to it by the States. The People grant the government the right to govern. We derive no rights from any government. The government is charged specifically with enforcing the rights of the People, many times, as specifically enumerated.
Issy October 02, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Thank you, yes I want to move forward (progress) as both a nation and as a human, rather than return to some perverse notion of 1950's America where blacks and women knew their place, gays were 'unheard' of and words like 'all men are created equal' and 'human rights' were an alien concept. What about you, are you progressive or pining for the right wings stone age utopia?
bruiser October 02, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Issy LOL, i was born a shade before the fifties and raised in the Hudson valley area,when i was a kid i can actually remember when it didn't matter if people were black or white,the people i grew up with stuck together like glue,and women were very well respected.Racism didn't really exist it only started when government became involved.
Bjorn Olsson October 02, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Dan, you know that China North Korea and a multitude of other countries are also republics, right? Republic in itself means basically that the head of state is not a monarch, has no real bearing on whether the state is democratic or not, whether is is capitalist or not, etc. What you describe sounds more like a definition of "democracy." The right wing stuff about how "governments can't grant rights" is complete nonsense, of course it can, all depending on how you define that word. If there is a government benefit or program that you qualify for, then you have a right to it. If the tax code allows you to deduct interest paid on your home mortgage, then you have a right to that deduction. If the law grants you the right to vote, you have a right do do so.
Ross Revira October 02, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Brusier, I agree with you regarding social security and medicare. Both programs are set up like an insurance program. You pay in something and when you reach a certain age you collect. I do not think most level headed people have a problem with working and paying taxes. What bothers me as well as others is the attitude of people who believe that the government or society owes them something for nothing. Whether it be a welfare recipient or public union official, in their mind the people footing the bill are irrelevant and the populous has to dance to their tune or else.
Justsaying October 03, 2012 at 02:03 AM
Apparently Mitt Romney is now less popular than… George W. Bush. That’s according to a new Bloomberg News poll, which finds that former President Bush has 46 percent favorable ratings and 49 percent unfavorable ratings among adults. By contrast, the current GOP presidential candidate Romney has a favorability rating of 43 percent and unfavorable ratings at 50 percent. President Barack Obama came in with higher favorability than both Republicans, racking up 52 favorable ratings and 44 percent unfavorables. Romney did, however, beat out Vice President Joe Biden‘s 42 percent net favorable ratings. The poll’s most favorable leader found was former President Bill Clinton, who polled at 64 percent favorable and 29 percent unfavorable. Coming in second was First Lady Michelle Obama, with 63 favorable and 29 unfavorable.
bruiser October 03, 2012 at 02:10 AM
Ross i agree with you, there are people who are scamming the system there is no doubt about it.I just wish when people say entitlements they would specify which one's they are talking about,let's use the unions for a second it is not the people who are doing the work that are the problem,it's the upper class that are milking the system it is not the little guy.I have a gentlemen who works for me,he worked for a town for 34 years and his retirement is 18 thousand a year,that wouldn't pay the fuel in one of my trucks for 6 months.My god 34 years of service for peanuts,and the sad part is he is actually grateful to the tax payers for that mere pittance.The guy was a garbage man and waited on people hand and foot for all those years and now people moan and groan about how well off he is,my answer is try and live off that,(YOU CAN'T) so now works for me to make ends meet and isn't the only one who is in that boat.
bruiser October 03, 2012 at 02:16 AM
Ross i have hired police officers so they could make enough to help their families earn enough to have a decent Christmas,or buy his wife a small gift for an anniversary.My question i guess would be is this what this country has come to where people have to work 2 and 3 jobs just to eat,i say no we are better than that and it's time for all of us to stand up and tell the politicians to git er done or your fired.

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